God & Particles (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by BBella @, Wednesday, June 11, 2014, 00:05 (3579 days ago) @ GateKeeper
edited by unknown, Wednesday, June 11, 2014, 00:11

bbella: David, by the above...one would conclude that you ARE saying God, thru QM, IS present in all that IS, living and inorganic - tho hidden at the Q level of reality. If so, wouldn't it then be easier or more realistic to simplify the word God to "the creator"? I personally have a problem within my own mind (not with anyone else's use) with the word God instead of Creator. The word God just seems to come with so much baggage that it's sometimes difficult to separate the baggage from the name. It is therefore more realistic for me to think and say: The creator of creation resides within the Q level of creation - since that just sounds so simple (to me) without any baggage. 
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> > Which reminds me of my favorite sufi sayings: The Creator sleeps in the rock, dreams in the plant, stirs in the animal and awakens in man. Possibly all at the Q level, yet there are no walls between the Q level and ALL of CREATION.
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>GateKeeper: you have an amazing talent for summation that resonates for me. Thank you for this. are you a believer or non believer? If yes. do you follow any set of rituals in particular or just a combination of a few?-GK~ Oh goodness! Don't get me started! lol A talent for summation? This may prove not so much, as your questions are difficult for me to answer simply. -I have no absolute answers to your questions tho I think of myself more of an agnostic than a believer but, I have experienced much that's allowed me to gain a deeper insight (than I had before) into the "workings" of the fabric of What Is, so at times I do "pray" (mentally or physically), or for me, a better word is "speak" my thankfulness, appreciation or desires to the All that Is. -But as to whether I am a believer in "God"? If you can call this a belief--> I have a hankering to want to believe in the Ancient Alien theory: The theory that the human creature is a creation by a higher intelligence that taught us "in our beginning" to call our creator "God" among other things. So for that reason, I don't personally cotton to the word "God" for the All that Is. The word "God" brings to mind for me a higher intelligence that created humanity through intelligence, science & experimentation. Once this higher intelligence achieved the creation of man, man was then taught the "need" to worship and obey their creator God through religion and ritual to teach man law and order. -As for the All that Is: I do sometimes call the All that Is "creator" because that is an action word and that's what creation does ~ create. So for me, a tree is a creator of the apple just as humans are creators of children, etc. Yet all use the same fabric of what Is to create. Everything creates and/or is in a state of change into something else. Even a rock is in a state of change creating something else only at a much slower rate. Altho science discovered the amazing ability of consciousness to effect creation (which the ancients already knew but we have re-discovered), that does not yet tell us that just because consciousness does effect the fabric of what Is, that the fabric itself is conscious, or that ONE conscious mind is experiencing All that Is, or if consciousness is a product of this fabric. Though some have theorized, and I suspect is so, that one change in the fabric effects all (Sheldrakes morphic field), which could give credence to the All is One theory. But the idea that one mind is consciously in control of All that IS? I don't know. That doesn't really make sense to me.-On practicing rituals: I do not practice any rituals now although I have in the distant past (religion-mediation-etc). -As much as possible, I observe from an open mind with respect, awe and an appreciation for All that Is, without doubt or disbelief of any possibility. That sounds like an Agnostic to me but whatever I am, I try to reserve judgement until it is time to do otherwise.


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