A Panpsychist Hypothesis (General)

by GateKeeper , Tuesday, June 24, 2014, 17:22 (3584 days ago) @ David Turell


> > dhw: This is a welcome volte face since the days when you were dismissing as a "non-starter" the idea of your God experimenting,..... And this makes it possible that the intelligence of first cause energy evolved in exactly the same way as our own intelligence ... expanding its potential as it gained information. There is no "mistake" here ... just two equally weird possibilities: eternal energy which knew it all; eternal energy which had to learn.
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> And I have brought you to accepting an eternal force which is behind the creaton of our reality. Our only difference is you want it to learn as it goes along. Since the Big Bang is an instant in first space-time, what source did your cause learn from, or was your first cause (FC) a very fast learner? 
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> > dhw: Physician, heal thyself! While I continue to delve into the various alternatives, having faith in none of them, you have been fighting tooth and nail to preserve the religious image of an eternally conscious power magically endowed with all the information and experience necessary to build life and a universe.
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> No, I have returned you to accepting an FC of energy, you without a consciousness, me with a consciousness. Now I have got to make you realize that only conscious energy learns.-One possible solution: One of QM's basis is "probability". this FC energy you speak of is "self taught" because of the way we are using the word "smarty pants".-another possible solution: I watched my kid wash a few ants down a crack while laughing. I see no reason for the universe not to have done things like this with the same malice my 6 1/2 yr old did.-This stuff is easy once we understand there is more tham one answer with the information we have. FC, QM style. It is even easier when our conclusions are locked into what we know and what we are seeking to learn.