An inventive mechanism (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, September 12, 2014, 20:37 (3507 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained


> Tony;The problem is that you are holding the planning and action to be the same thing, and they are not. Doesn't an architect draw up blueprints long before the workers start construction? Once the construction starts, does he do everything at once, or does each thing have an appointed time and order in which it must occur? ...... God is not foolish enough to not have a plan, and is is capable enough to deal with any issues of "time and unforeseen circumstances." -I admire your knowledge and scholarship re the OT. I'm no where near that ability. On the other hand my self-education after the smattering in childhood is partially with Gerald Schroeder' books on science and the OT, and Adler's "How to think about God". Both authors attribute much more power to God than you do above, and I feel your description is very anthropomorphic, and God is much more than what you have attributed to him. That is why I view him as the universal consciousness with near infinite intellectual capacities.-> 
> Tony: And one last thing about the nature of God as applied to this conversation. We have free will, something we both agreed on. Free will, by its very nature introduces uncertainty. -Agreed.
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> > Tony:In Hebrew, the name Jehovah comes from a verb that means “to become,” and a number of scholars feel that it reflects the causative form of that Hebrew verb. Thus, the understanding .. is that God's name means “He Causes to Become.” .. this definition well fits Jehovah's(YHWH) role as the Creator of all things and the Fulfiller of his purpose. He not only caused the physical universe and intelligent beings to exist, but as events unfold, he continues to cause his will and purpose to be realized.-Very reasonable
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> Tony; The point is that he doesn't have to be able to predict the future and no every single event that will ever happen(that would violate free will), but rather, like the skilled architect, when something tries to derail his purpose he has the ability to work around it and fulfill his purpose through other avenues.-I don't think this limited interpretation necessarily follows the paragraph above. Free will in humans cannot block the works of God. What we do to ourselves is our problem.
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> >David: Agreed, but God, as described, should have been able to do all the planning from the beginning, or he had to step in and adjust. Again, my dilemma.
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> They are not mutually exclusive, nor should they be. (See Above)-Under your interpretation of God that is true, under mine no.