Dualism (Identity)

by dhw, Tuesday, March 24, 2015, 20:20 (3292 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

TONY: What is the difference between these two:
"Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise”
"Truly I say to you today, you will be with me in paradise."
Greeks didn't use commas. Jesus was dead for three days and only resurrected after three days. So, given that piece of information, which insertion of the comma above (in the translation to English) makes sense?-Remind me to get a Watchtower lawyer if I ever get into trouble! The St James version reads: “Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.” Unequivocal. You tell us the Bible is the word of God - but presumably that only applies to your version. The St James version must have been fiddled by Satan, then. (The three-day break is a mystery, but we know from NDEs that it's only a matter of minutes to get there and back. Easy for Jesus.)
 
Scene: a court in heaven. God and Jesus presiding. The year 5000,000,014 (shortly after Charles Taze Russell's prediction) -FRED: I thought you said I would be with you in paradise on the day we were crucified!
JESUS: Misunderstanding, my friend. You put the non-existent comma in the wrong place.
GOD: And since you believed that when you died, your conscious spirit would immediately go to paradise, you have despicably let yourself be used by Satan. Guilty. 
FRED: But I've just heard that Jesus's conscious spirit went straight to paradise. 
JESUS: Not till three days later.
FRED: So what were your body and spirit doing for three days?
JESUS: I ain't tellin'.
GOD: Next!
*************************-TONY: Worshiping pagan god's is wrong. -My lovely Mrs X isn't worshipping a pagan God. She worships your God and Jesus. -TONY: Not sure what else you want to hear, as apparently your primary argument seems to be that people should do whatever THEY feel is right and good, and as long as they do that all should be well. I am actually surprised that you make that argument considering that even in OUR legal system, ignorance of the law is no excuse from it. And God's legal system is far less convoluted than our own.-Hold on, hold on, not only is my sweet Mrs X suddenly worshipping pagan gods, but now I'm arguing for a free-for-all! I have stated my position: “Ultimately, what “matters”...is (a)what seems right to you, and (b) that what seems right to you does no harm to others and, preferably, benefits you and others.” That is the basis of most religions, humanism and the laws of our would-be democratic society. In my view, (b) is broken for instance by anyone who feels it is right and good to go out and kill people who disagree with his version of God's laws. And if you prosecute my beloved Mrs X for believing she has a conscious soul that might go to heaven when she dies, I shall defend her by informing the court that your view of the law depends on a few words in the Bible, of which there is nobody on this earth who is capable of offering a definitive interpretation, as is proved by your juggling with Luke 23, 43, and your problems with Psalm 146,4.


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