Current science; fraudulent thinking (Introduction)

by David Turell , Friday, May 22, 2015, 21:58 (3255 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: Of course time as we know it exists in this universe. But you insist that time itself began with this universe, while you simultaneously insist that something preceded this universe. (The contradiction is not resolved by juggling with the word “timeless”, which can mean independent of time or unaffected by time.) If the universe came from something, that something must have existed BEFORE the universe, and my concept of time is a movement from before to now to after. What is your concept of time?-We are back to the same discussion as before. I believe in an uncaused first cause. The time we experience is in this universe. We have not and probably cannot imagine 'before' this universe. But if there is a first cause there is a 'before'. We experience time in this universe as a series of sequential events.