More James Barham introduces James Shapiro (Introduction)

by David Turell , Wednesday, August 19, 2015, 22:52 (3163 days ago) @ dhw


> David's comment: And, of course, for me that 'something else' is intelligent information imbued in organisms by God.
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> dhw: It is you, David, who have insisted that cells are machines, and both Barham and Shapiro disagree with you. If cells are not machines, they are sentient, cognitive, intelligent, autonomous beings, not automatons programmed with “intelligent information” by God.-And I repeat, if the cells follow the information carefully as automatons they will look exactly as if they care intelligent.
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> I don't know Barham or Shapiro's religious leanings, but as an agnostic, I can only repeat that Darwin's theory of evolution does NOT preclude the existence of God, and the thrust of both Barham and Shapiro's argument so far is to favour the hypothesis that evolution is driven by the intelligence of the cell. -I don't know about Barham, but I have suspected from previous associations he may be a Christian. Shapiro at one time was President of his Jewish temple.