Clever Corvids: using tools (Introduction)

by David Turell , Tuesday, September 01, 2015, 01:39 (3159 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: You just happen to know that corvids are intelligent and bacteria are not.
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> DAVID: Anyone with a brain can do a bit of thinking. Bacteria?
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> dhw: Isn't it amazing that experts like Margulis, Shapiro, McClintock, Albrecht-Buehler etc. never thought of that! Or could it just be that there are different forms of intelligence, and bacteria have different means of thinking? -Pray tell, how?- 
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> Dhw: It's also interesting that in your correspondence with Romansh you continue to refer to NDEs as possible evidence that thought can be independent of the brain. (I'm not dismissing that argument - simply pointing out the inconsistency.) After all, if God exists, one presumes he can think, but does one also presume he has a brain?-Not thought, but consciousness can be independent. Thought is a product of consciousness. I view consciousness as an entity all by itself, whether produced by the brain or received by the brain.