Biological complexity: how we smell odors (Introduction)

by David Turell , Friday, June 03, 2016, 01:55 (2878 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: It is clear that after your brief flirtation with a “free” complexity mechanism you are now reverting to preprogramming and dabbling. But we should be careful to distinguish between stages. I am also claiming that the source of the messages is “design” in the sense that cellular intelligence (possibly designed by your God) processes and communicates the information and takes the decisions based on that information. Chance is not an option.-I'm still working on the complexification theory. Note previous comments today.->> Not quite. “Somewhat less likely” is a gently understated way of tilting the balance! Your “free complexity mechanism” which allows the bush to “spread as it wishes”, while God “only steps in to dabble” seems to me vastly more likely than your dramatic reversion to your God putting in “programs to organize what complexifications are created”.-I am inclined to agree with your assessment.-> DAVID: The atheist has to propose that energy can be self-transforming, something no one has ever observed.
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> dhw; But that is YOUR proposal: that “pure energy” transformed itself into a universe! My atheistic proposal is based on the fact that energy and matter are forever transforming themselves, and we see it all the time in the physical world around us and even within us!-But my original cause is a mind! From the beginning, no conversions. And of course energy/matter transformations are under the control of the mechanisms that mind set up.