Evolution took a long time (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Sunday, January 08, 2017, 21:14 (2637 days ago) @ dhw


dhw: I’m not sure why you use the word “stored”. Memory and information are stored, but nobody knows the source of intelligence in the sense of cognizance, information-processing, decision-making etc. Albrecht-Bühler thinks the control centre of the cell is the centrosome.
Guenter Albrecht-Buehler: Cell Intelligence
www.basic.northwestern.edu/g-buehler/FRAME.HTM
Unless you believe your God personally instructs every single bacterium on how to solve every single problem, where is his 3.8-billion-year computer programme for every solution “stored”? If we know every molecule, why hasn’t it been found?

Because one of the molecules is DNA and we don't know but a tiny portion of its attributes. The instructions are there.


DAVID: But you stated above: "What is your objection to the theoretical proposal that his goal was to produce a creature resembling himself, but he didn’t know how to do it and spent a few billion years experimenting?" I'm confused by your thinking.

dhw: Perhaps I didn’t make the distinction clear. In this hypothesis, your God knows WHAT he is doing (trying to create a being resembling himself), but has to experiment because he doesn’t yet know HOW to do it. The result: lots of complex creatures that still can’t think in the way he wants. So on he goes. Of course this runs contrary to your personal view of a God who knows and is in control of absolutely everything, but this constantly brings you to the great impasse: if he knew how to do it from the start, why did he have to design the different stages of the pre-whale, the monarch’s lifestyle and the weaverbird’s nest? And please don’t tell me they were necessary in order to keep life going till humans could arrive. An experimenting God would at least explain the disappearance of 99% of what you insist he personally created. As of course would the autonomous, intelligent, inventive mechanism which in your last post you kindly accepted as a possibility.

I accepted a stepwise process for the IM. The organisms makes an adaptation and God either accepts or adjusts. But we know evolution existed. You want God to wander around befuddled. The answer is simple God prefers evolving things, the evolving universe, evolving life.


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