Evolution and humans: all over Africa (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Thursday, October 12, 2017, 14:34 (11 days ago) @ dhw


DAVID: I view God as much more serious than you do. My view of his personality is not yours which is always trying to humanize Him.
Dhw: So you are not humanizing him when you tell us that he is too serious to want to create a spectacle, and he wants us to think of him. Any non-human theories as to why he wants us to think of him?

dhw: I notice you have not answered this.

Of course we have to speak of his personality in our human terms, but I'll stick to Adler's terminology, a person like no other person.


DAVID: I start with the world we observe...

dhw: It’s true that you have always claimed this, and so perhaps your statement above that you “start with God’s purpose” was just a Freudian slip, but I think it’s more accurate. You have made up your mind that God’s purpose was to produce Homo sapiens’ brain, and then you try to manipulate the history of life to suit your conclusion.

Sequence of my thoughts: evolution requires responses to challenges to survival. The human brain appeared for no obvious reason, compared to ape survival. The human brain is the most complex object in the universe. Not a Freudian slip. I see the purpose.


DAVID: ... and try to extrapolate purpose from that. And you admit that the purpose I extrapolate fits the history.

dhw: I absolutely do not! I can find no logic in your belief that your God personally preprogrammed and/or dabbled eight stages of whale, the weaverbird’s nest, the toxin-eating snake etc. in order to keep life going until he could fulfil his prime purpose of producing Homo sapiens’ brain. And I find no logic in your belief that your God remains hidden and watches us with interest, with the purpose of having a relationship with us, but his way of watching and his interest and his concept of a relationship are not what we mean by watching, interest and relationship. And I find no logic in your belief that one moment he is all-powerful and the next moment his powers may be limited. Need I go on?

Faith may not be logical to you.


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