Neanderthal research about interbreeding and migration (Introduction)

by David Turell , Thursday, June 27, 2019, 18:49 (1767 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: The Neanderthals made major contribution to the evolution of sapiens with all the ancient interbreeding. Following dhw's strange thinking about God and humans evolution, why did He create all these homo forms if all He wanted was humans? One finding previously presented is that Neanderthal DNA provided broader immunity. I'm sure more reasons will be found. God acts purposefully.

dhw: Usual problem: please explain why a God who specially designs whatever he wants to specially design might have found it necessary to specially design all kinds of hominins and homos before specially designing the only homo he wanted. You have admitted in the past that you have “no idea”, but perhaps you have now worked out an answer.

NB I accept the history – all these beings evolved. But even if I were to accept your fixed belief that your God’s only purpose was to create H.sapiens, I would argue (one of my logical hypotheses) that all the different hominins and homos suggest experimentation, as opposed to a God who knew exactly what he wanted and was in total control. And there is nothing “weak” or “confused” about knowing what you want and experimenting in order to get it.

A God who has to experiment is obviously weak.

DAVID (Under "Evolution"): There is great difficulty in staying with the Linnaeus classification based only only body appearance:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/phyla-and-other-flawed-taxonomic-categories-vex-biologis...

QUOTE: "Scientists can usually sidestep the problems with taxonomic rankings by separating discussions about how organisms evolved from arguments about how to name or classify them. “When you’re doing evolution, you’re doing evolution. And when you’re doing systematics and taxonomy, that’s a different thing,” he said. That separation may be awkward, but “it’s clunky because life is clunky.'”

DAVID: I still feel this is the wrong approach. Use genetic comparisons as previously proposed. God made a complex bush obviously to purposely to create the necessary econiches for a food supply to finally reach primates and then humans over 3.8 billion years. God chose the entirety of the evolutionary process of creation.

dhw: Nobody has yet found a satisfactory system of classification. As the author points out, that has nothing to do with HOW organisms evolved. Back we go again:The idea that your God designed every single life form so they could all eat or not eat one another until he designed the only thing he wanted to design is a theory for which apparently you have not yet found any support from the scientific world, and I wonder what the theological and philosophical world would make of it.

My ID folks support my theory. They demand that a designer created evolution. They just don't label the designer as God.