A new theory (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Monday, May 20, 2013, 14:46 (4013 days ago)

From Professor Denis Noble of Oxford. So much for another Oxford Professor, Richard Dawkins. This says the gene is no longer the only central control, and the paper quotes James Shapiro among others. I predict this type of thought and opinion will appear more and more. -"We are privileged to live at a time of a major change in the conceptual foundations of biology. That change is set to bring the physiological study of function right back into centre stage. It is worth quoting the relevant paragraph from Mattick's commentary on the Nelson et al work: "The available evidence not only suggests an intimate interplay between genetic and epigenetic inheritance, but also that this interplay may involve communication between
the soma and the germline. This idea contravenes the so-called Weismann barrier,
sometimes referred to as Biology's Second Law, which is based on flimsy evidence and a desire to distance Darwinian evolution from Lamarckian nheritance at the time of the Modern Evolutionary Synthesis. However, the belief that the soma and germline do not communicate is patently incorrect."
The only parts of this statement that I would change are, first, to remind readers, as I noted earlier in this article, that Darwin himself did not exclude the inheritance of acquired characteristics. Second, to remind us that Lamarck himself did not invent 'Lamarckism' (Noble 2010). As we move on beyond
the unnecessary restrictions of the Modern Synthesis we move back towards a more genuinely 'Darwinian' viewpoint, and we also move towards a long-overdue rehabilitation of Lamarck. Of course, neither Darwinism nor Lamarckism remains unchanged. Neither could have anticipated the work of the 21st century. But we can now see the Modern Synthesis as too restrictive and that it dominated biological science for far too long. Perhaps the elegant mathematics and the extraordinary reputation of thereputation of the scientists involved blinded us to what now seems obvious: the organism should never have been relegated to the role of mere carrier of its genes." (my bold)
http://ep.physoc.org/content/early/2013/04/12/expphysiol.2012.071134.full.pdf+html

A new theory

by dhw, Tuesday, May 21, 2013, 16:54 (4012 days ago) @ David Turell

Many thanks to David, who has alerted us to a "new theory".-http://ep.physoc.org/content/early/2013/04/12/expphysiol.2012.071134.full.pdf+html-David has quoted the conclusion, but it's the abstract that sets the bells ringing for me:-The "Modern Synthesis" (Neo-Darwinism) is a mid-twentieth century gene-centric view of evolution,based on random mutations accumulating to produce gradual change through natural selection. Any role of physiological function in influencing genetic inheritance was excluded. The organism became a mere carrier of the real objects of selection: its genes. We now know that genetic change is far from random and often not gradual. Molecular genetics and genome sequencing have deconstructed this unnecessarily restrictive view of evolution in a way that reintroduces physiological function and interactions with the environment as factors influencing the speed and nature of inherited change. Acquired characteristics can be inherited, and in a few but growing number of cases that inheritance has now been shown to be robust for many generations. The twenty-first century can look forward to a new synthesis that will reintegrate physiology with evolutionary biology.-In our many discussions over the years, David and I have agreed that random mutation and gradualism are major problems in Darwin's theory. In my own amateur meanderings, I have been plugging interaction with the environment as a twofold trigger for innovation by an intelligent mechanism within the genome: 1) necessity, which I think is more likely to lead to adaptation than to innovation, and 2) opportunity, as changes in the environment may lead to experimentation. But if acquired characteristics can be inherited, this has to be another way of saying that changes in the body can cause changes in the genome.- There is an eye-opening sentence in the conclusion, quoting Mattick:
"The available evidence not only suggests an intimate interplay between genetic and epigenetic inheritance, but also that this interplay may involve communication between the soma and the germline."-The author stresses the work of McClintock, who claimed that "the genome is an organ of the cell" and who, if you remember, called for research into the degree to which the cell might have knowledge of itself. He also refers to Margulis' work on symbiogenesis, though not to her more general ideas about cooperation.-It seems to me that if you put all these factors together ... rejection of randomness, interaction between organisms and environment, inheritance of acquired characteristics, communication and cooperation between all the cells and sets of cells ... the picture entails just the sort of mechanism we have been discussing. However, David, I need your guidance on one piece of this jigsaw puzzle. If innovation can come about through interplay between the genetic and the epigenetic, and between the soma and the germ line (i.e. intelligent cooperation between all parts of the body), would not this "new theory" suggest that the "intelligent cell" might after all be more accurate terminology than the "intelligent genome"?

A new theory

by David Turell @, Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 01:20 (4011 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: It seems to me that if you put all these factors together ... rejection of randomness, interaction between organisms and environment, inheritance of acquired characteristics, communication and cooperation between all the cells and sets of cells ... the picture entails just the sort of mechanism we have been discussing. .......would not this "new theory" suggest that the "intelligent cell" might after all be more accurate terminology than the "intelligent genome"?-I don't think the name is important. What comes across is that the cell as a unit and its genome contain a tremendous amount of infomation which is used very efficiently at several levels of activity. It is obvious the cell coordinates its parts, BUT, we still have no idea how species appear. This new knowledge still does not provide an answer, but the Darwin theory of gradualism, in face of this new info, looks much less likely to provide the answer. To paraphrase Dawkins, it is not climing Mt. Improbable that seems to work. It is leaping up the mountain by an unknown process.

A new theory

by dhw, Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 16:30 (4011 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: It seems to me that if you put all these factors together ... rejection of randomness, interaction between organisms and environment, inheritance of acquired characteristics, communication and cooperation between all the cells and sets of cells ... the picture entails just the sort of mechanism we have been discussing. .......would not this "new theory" suggest that the "intelligent cell" might after all be more accurate terminology than the "intelligent genome"?-DAVID: I don't think the name is important. What comes across is that the cell as a unit and its genome contain a tremendous amount of infomation which is used very efficiently at several levels of activity. It is obvious the cell coordinates its parts, BUT, we still have no idea how species appear. This new knowledge still does not provide an answer, but the Darwin theory of gradualism, in face of this new info, looks much less likely to provide the answer. To paraphrase Dawkins, it is not climing Mt. Improbable that seems to work. It is leaping up the mountain by an unknown process.-You yourself have proposed an answer, which I have named "creationist evolution", whereby your God intervenes in the process of evolution. I too have proposed an answer. I've outlined it again on the thread "Theistic evolution", and it has the great advantage of being compatible both with theism and with atheism. It explains how new organs and species can suddenly appear, why the fossil record has so many gaps, and why evolution has progressed to ever increasing complexity. At the same time, it is compatible with all current scientific research on genetics, epigenetics, interaction between organism and environment, Lamarckism, and cooperation and communication between cells. There is no leap of faith required ... the leap concerns the origin of the mechanism, not the mechanism itself. All hail, then, to the new theory: THE INTELLIGENT CELL.

A new theory

by David Turell @, Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 16:58 (4011 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: All hail, then, to the new theory: THE INTELLIGENT CELL.-And where did the intellilgence come from? Not self-invention. See our other thread.

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