A RESPONSE TO THOMAS KELLY (Religion)

by Thomas Kelly , Thursday, May 31, 2012, 14:28 (4346 days ago) @ dhw

dhw,-You posted-"THOMAS KELLY (translating Matthew 5, 43, 44 and 45): You heard it said serve your neighbour and neglect your enemy. Different to it I say to you serve your enemies, benefit those who curse you, work for those who neglect you, and pray for those who resent you and persecute you so you may be the sons of your Father who is in the heavens, because he makes his sun rise on harmful and righteous and sends rain on just and unjust.-Darby Translation next.-Ye have heard that it has been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour and hate thine enemy.
But *I* say unto you, Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who insult you and persecute you, that ye may be the sons of your Father who is in the heavens; for he makes his sun rise on evil and good, and sends rain on just and unjust."-You put.-"Thomas, you are welcome to this site, which is an open forum whose purpose is to discuss all subjects concerning the possible existence and possible nature of God, the origin of life and the universe, evolution, the role of science and philosophy (including religion) etc."-Thanks.-You put. -"Contributors over the years have included Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Jews, panentheists, process theologians, atheists, agnostics...However, it is not meant to be a vehicle for sermonizing, or for advertising a particular book, and so I hope that your motive for joining us is to enter into a discussion of your beliefs."-I have posted evidence of ancient written works which may be examined, questioned and discussed by anyone like the bible or the koran.-In my posts I have asked a question like "true or false ?" or said something like "maybe you'll agree", those words don't show me claiming the evidence is true.-Also my signature of my AgnosticWeb.com profile is "All guessed" to show anything I post I don't claim to be true or false. If you didn't have some knowledge of that, you do now.-http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sermonize?q=sermonize-I want to change my screen name to "Thomas Kelly guessed" and I haven't had time to see if it may be done without creating a new account or if I'm allowed to create a new account.-Which meaning of sermonizing did you mean ?-Is composing and delivering a sermon wrong ? Maybe you haven't examined the wording. -A definition of sermonize.-http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sermonize?q=sermonize-As for advertising, I have a duty to benefit people with anything I own as you may have guessed by the rest of the post which was with the part of the post you posted. -Part of the post.-"Before you compare you may need me to tell you that benefitting people sometimes is not the same as doing like they want you to and being silent may be beneficial as speaking a word to someone. Sometimes doing what a person doesn't want you to do is beneficial for everyone including yourself and serving."-A time to be silent is if you guess by someones words or actions they don't want to help you and no-one else mostly benefits by you speaking.-To help be silent you may need to keep your top lip and bottom lip touching and try not to screw your lips up. -End of part of the post.-Also which kind of websites evidence comes from is subject to what is avaiable. Some are more orderly than others.-I'm not convinced my posts were not right for starting a discussion, part of the evidence is above.-You put-"To that end, let me challenge the above quotation. Do you think that the surviving children of Houla, for instance, should willingly serve / learn to love / pray for / bless Assad and his soldiers who have slaughtered their brothers, sisters and parents?"-I have little knowledge of the slaughterings, I have been working to benefit others as much as I can in many other ways.-Serving enemies does not mean approving them or helping them do more wrong.-As I showed in part of the post you used part of.-Part of the post.-"A time to be silent is if you guess by someones words or actions they don't want to help you and no-one else mostly benefits by you speaking."-End of post.-If anyone is pleased by someones suffering in punishment of revenge or other times or by gaining victory in and after such circumstances they have shown ignorance of divinity.-Why be pleased because of any of it ? If you read the bible you may learn that God is not pleased by the death of harmful people.-Part of bible next, part of Ezekiel 33:11 below.-'As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live.-New International Version (NIV)-http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+33&version=NIV-Continued in next post.

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