Creation of Man (Introduction)

by BBella , Thursday, January 10, 2013, 23:20 (4125 days ago) @ David Turell

Bbella: I thought you might could either, fill in the blanks to redirect my thinking about the Ancient Alien theory, or admit that the Ancient Alien intervention theory is just as plausible as the God intervention theory. [open for anyone's comments] 
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> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5jjeYoQUJA
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> I've seen all of it. It uses Ian Tattersal, a highly respected paleontologist to set a respectable stage. It shows that the appearance of H. sapiens is due to a set of miraculous events: 1) creation of a universe; 2) origin of life; 3)evolution of a sentient biped from a mass of monkeys. Review: 1) is recently re-established forcefully by Vilenkin's math. 2) has a pan-spermia discussion, but it is used to raise the possibilty of alien astro-life elsewhere. The 2011 claim for bacteria in asteroids has been refuted, even though this 2012 You tube seems unaware of that. SETI has not gotten signals but that only covers 50 light years.
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> Conclusion: The universe was a creation, from or by? The origin of life appears to be miraculous. Inorganic matter to living matter is a giant step. Sentience is an unexpected outcome from chance mutation evolution.
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> Therefore, there are three possibilities: Agency as from God or alien intervention, or finally chance. I throw out chance completely, a defying logic. 
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> As for aliens the group behind the You tube presentation don't appear very knowledgable: They state H. sapiens is only 50,000 years old. not true: more like 200,000 years. They recognize a flock of hominids, but don't discuss that that were four Homo species, with us surviving. That makes our evolution very special, and their monkey impregnation theory is either very shotgun or not as guided as they present. There are other errors not worth pursuing. -Even though the group behind the Youtube presentation do not appear very knowledgeable and state some wrong facts, still the alien intervention theory remains possible? 
 
> They don't recognize the scientifically indisputable points of the limitiations of space travel. The closest star is 4 light-years away. The closest big galaxy (Andromeda) is 2 billion light years away. Pretty solid theory states that life has to be only in big galaxies like ours. So we are limited to looking for alien life only in our galaxy. Arrivals are limited by the time necessary to get here. Travel at the speed of light involves only photons, not living matter. -I'm sure you have heard this before, but if beings from other planets are much older than the humans on this planet, why is it not possible they have developed time/space travel through wormholes or dimensional portals, etc? We have even imagined and created movies of it ourselves and we are a very young species when it comes to technology. There's not a lot of things we have imagined we haven't at some point created so I can only imagine where we would be given another few centuries or less. 
 
> To me the whole idea is fun to imagine, but pie in the sky or pie in your face. What kind of income do these folks make by inventing these theories?-As you well know, a person looks for evidence of their own belief. In my mind, there is just as much evidence for this possibility than any other given that science and the ancient alien theory both agree that man (as he is today) popping up when he did, was nearly a miraculous event in time. No doubt ancient alien theorist may search for evidence for their belief in many places, including the wrong places at times, just as scientist and theists and deists, etc do as well. -But, you haven't answered, to my mind, how the idea that a God intervened or created mankind is that much different than an older alien species doing the same thing? It still seems to me, the evidence lies more on the side of an older species doing the intervening rather than a god, since the sudden appearance of the humanoid seems highly suspect. If we could just as easily connect the dots of evolution for man as we could for animals we wouldn't even be having this conversation...and there probably wouldn't even be religions or a question of a god either.