Cosmology: milky way size is enormous (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, June 08, 2019, 15:13 (1784 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: You should understand I simply accept what God as done. You have the problem of wondering why. I know my current efforts art explaining things to you as I see them falls short. But I do see scientific advances as explaining as time goes by.

dhw: I’m sorry, but you always talk non-stop about your God’s purposefulness, and have even accused me of NOT seeing this. Purpose is the reason why actions are performed. You do not "simply accept what God has done", because you insist that his sole purpose was to produce H. sapiens. You yourself don’t know why he specially designed all those small galaxies unsuitable for life, and you don’t know why he specially designed the salmon’s migratory reproduction system. And so now you don’t want to talk about purpose!

DAVID: I do see God's purposefulness, but you are asking me questions I cannot answer with any kind of theory, while I know God acted with purpose as He fine tuned our universe. Explaining His designs are just like doubting the design of the retina. Research always manages to show why! And of course you can talk about it, but mostly you just doubt or humanize.

dhw: If God exists, then of course he acted with purpose. But you keep insisting that you KNOW his purpose, namely to produce H. sapiens. And you know that he specially designed every life form, and he did so for the sole purpose of getting them to eat or not eat one another until he specially designed H. sapiens, and you know that he specially designed lots of small galaxies incapable of harbouring life although all he wanted to do was to design a galaxy capable of harbouring life so that he could produce H. sapiens. I am challenging these basic assumptions, and you yourself admit that you have no idea why he chose that method to achieve that purpose. I offer alternative explanations which you admit make perfect sense. Why do you assume your God does not have human characteristics, and does not work in ways that conform to human logic?

Because God is not a human person. In Adler's words, He is a person like no other person. You can challenge my 'basic assumptions', but I believe that God chose to start life with bacteria and use evolution to evolve humans. And He managed evolution hands on until He reached his goal. Your 'alternative explanations' are perfectly logical in human terms, which means your approach constantly makes attempts to humanize God. He is not human.