NDEs: It still comes back to epistemology (Agnosticism)

by dhw, Tuesday, October 27, 2020, 09:25 (1270 days ago) @ xeno6696

xeno: What does it actually mean that the data was corroborated?
The claim here that we're considering is pretty... well pretty banal. So we find a shoe. other people corroborate that.
Looking at some other cases:
"Pam Reynolds: Upon returning to consciousness, she was able to accurately describe the unique surgical instrument used and report the statements made by the nurses."
We've got this dutch guy:
"‘You were there when I was brought into hospital and you took my dentures out of my mouth and put them onto that cart, it had all these bottles on it and there was this sliding drawer underneath, and there you put my teeth.’"
The thing that *I* notice here, is that in these instances we're all talking about things that are physically close to the patient in question.
Lady finds a shoe. Man finds his teeth. Another lady describes a procedure that the doc and nurses all already know.
I'm having a hard time understanding what the fascination or implications might really be here?

I wish I could remember the other examples that did NOT concern such observations but I don’t have time to do the research. I vaguely remember that they involved patients “meeting” people they didn’t even know were dead, or being given information about living people which turned out to be true. BBella’s example was not an NDE – it concerned the person concerned being “told” to take action because of an accident which he/she couldn’t have known about. Such “psychic” events are far from being confined to NDEs. I’m sorry I can’t be more helpful, but the implications are that the human mind is not confined to the brain cells, and may even have an existence of its own when the brain cells are dead. Hence the concept of an immortal soul. As usual, I remain neutral, but NDEs are only part of the story, and there are far too many instances of “psychic” experiences involving inexplicable knowledge for me to dismiss all of them as hoaxes or delusions.