Categories or Degrees of Existence (Agnosticism)

by Tim , Friday, July 16, 2010, 00:10 (5033 days ago) @ David Turell

Mr. Turell - I completely agree with you. Even the simplest of life is so durned complex that it taxes the very outer limits of human ability to comprehend.-I fully believe that it is NOT a choice about whether or not there IS Intelligence (or Design) behind life, as this just seems so obvious as to be an utter waste of precious time. Rather, this choice needs to be sorted into a box that has not yet been built.-We humans have our various gods, and these gods are imputed with intelligence that we lack (or seem to lack, or as yet lack, or can never attain....etc.), and thus, as responsible Agnostics, we must find clearer, cleaner definitions for both "intelligent/ce" and "design/er", so that we can absolutely minimize anthropomorphic bias - though, admittedly, this is difficult in the extreme.-OR, to the contrary, if there actually IS a, or several, gods, working together, find ways to form this defining process to give credit to him/her/it/them.-All beings upon this Earth have their own specific expression/s of their 'intelligence', and, in demonstrating it, they also define their limitations; Although wasps can build exquisite nests, and spiders can build near-perfect webs, still, neither of them can fly. They function within their domains in Nature, and can't stray much beyond these tight areas. The 'intelligence' demonstrated, although brilliant, is reduced in value by its own lonely specificity. We alone seem to be the only beings who are extreme generalists. I constantly come to terms with myself about why this is so.-As I have these internal arguments, I often revert to my historical understanding of religious evolution, and how it is SOOOO easy to impute to some deity the understanding that we lack - and even that act lies strictly within the imperial domain of human intelligence. As far as can be yet demonstrated, no other other being does this.-What thinketh ye?