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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fossil starfish in the act:</p>
<p><a href="https://phys.org/news/2024-05-fossil-captures-starfish-million-years.html">https://phys.org/news/2024-05-fossil-captures-starfish-million-years.html</a></p>
<p>&quot;One of the wildest wonders of nature is the ability of some animals to reproduce by splitting in half. There is still so much we don't know about this process. So the discovery of a 155-million-year-old starfish fossil frozen partway through this process, published in a new study, could give scientists incredible new insights.</p>
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<p>&quot;The starfish, or asteroid, is part of a group of animals called the echinoderms or spiny skinned animals that also includes sea lilies, sea urchins and sea cucumbers. They are found in almost every corner of our oceans and spend part of their life as microscopic larvae before developing into adults.</p>
<p>&quot;Starfish are among the oldest living animals on our planet. They appeared in a form we would recognize almost 480 million years ago and have survived five mass extinctions.</p>
<p>&quot;The reason for their evolutionary success could be in their ability to reproduce both sexually and asexually—by literally splitting in two and growing into two new animals. This is known as fissiparity. It is still sometimes observed in modern starfish and comes with the advantage of forming numerous offspring in a relatively short time and without &quot;costing&quot; the parent a great amount of energy or time.</p>
<p>&quot;Sexual reproduction, on the other hand, requires starfish and brittle stars to come together in huge numbers to spawn. The disadvantage of fissiparity is that this type of reproduction can result in a lack of genetic diversity in the population.</p>
<p>&quot;Biologists call the process of splitting in two parts fragmentation. Only a small number of animals can do this. For example, the common garden earthworm, which many gardeners have watched in amazement as one animal suddenly becomes two. Biologists can also watch starfish and brittle stars doing this in their labs or in marine stations.</p>
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<p>&quot;Only a few animals make it into the fossil record, and many of these are in fragments as they often fall apart once the body has decayed. However, Thuy's brittle star discovery appears to show a brittle star in the process of reproducing asexually. The fossil has already been &quot;born.&quot; One half of the body appears to be fully developed while the other half shows signs of regeneration with three smaller arms clearly visible.&quot;</p>
<p>Comment: Amoeba split in two, so the mechanism existed from the beginning. Sexual activity is highly complex and was an activity that had to be evolved over time. It is not surprising for this is to occur before sex appeared. Earth worms are still doing it from fragments if cut up. From the design viewpoint, the timing makes sense.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More evidence for volcanoes:-http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2014/12/11/did-a-massive-volcanic-eruption-in-india-kill-off-the-dinosaurs/-&amp;quot;Now scientists have found a way to date more precisely the Deccan Traps eruption, and the results are a boost, potentially, for the volcano-did-it camp.-:The main pulse of the lava flow began about 250,000 years before the mass extinction event, and ended about 500,000 years after, according to a paper published online Thursday in the journal Science. Thus if the eruption is not a significant factor in the mass extinction, it&amp;apos;s a remarkable coincidence. Earlier attempts to date the Deccan Traps, using less precise methods, had a much larger margin of error, on the order of plus-or-minus one million years.&amp;quot;</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2014 23:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two theories about the end of dinosaurs: the big asteroid in the Yucatan or volcanoes in Siberia. It is probably both:</p>
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<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204531404577052090769957890.html?KEYWORDS=Matt+Ridley">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204531404577052090769957890.html?KEYWORDS...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>New australopithicus, with an almost complete skeleton:&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110908104159.htm-Further">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110908104159.htm-Further</a> discussion about the new ancestor for humans:-http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v477/n7364/full/477252a.html?WT.ec_id=NATURE-20110915-Australopithecus sedeba skeletons are almost complete of a female and a young male. There is a mixture of newer and older skeletal developments. A broader pelvis allows for bipedal walking and a bigger brain, but the brain is still small. What branch is this?</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New australopithicus, with an almost complete skeleton:-http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110908104159.htm</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 02:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Multicellular animals have been found at 3,000 meters down on the ocean bottom living without oxygen, and have substituted for mitochondria with a different organ to allow this:-http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100406/full/464825b.html</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 01:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fuss over IDA may be over but another early fossil jaw has turned up in Asia that suggests the line of evolution leading to hominids and monkeys came from there. Of course there is disagreement: - &amp;#13;&amp;#10;http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/701/1 - &amp;#13;&amp;#10;And related to the book &amp;quot;Rare Earth&amp;quot; and the CO2 cycle mentioned there, is a discussion of a new study of plants and CO2 levels. This is certainly also related to the &amp;quot;Global Warming Debate&amp;quot; of current times, The greenhouse gas effect has allowed evolution and life to progress, and the CO2 variation in the past have been enormous: - &amp;#13;&amp;#10;http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17404-plant-life-saved-earth-from-an-icy-fate.html</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another article on the complexity of single-celled organisms responses to environmental challenges, a partial background to epigenetics in higher animals: - &amp;#13;&amp;#10;http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17390-why-microbes-are-smarter-than-you-thought.html?page=1</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my ongoing demonstration of the complexity of biochemistry in evolution, and especially how complex a single-celled animal can be comes the following book. I&amp;apos;m going to have to read it as it appears to make my point that living matter is too complex for chance appearance.  - <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227141.600-review-wetware-by-dennis-bray.html">http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227141.600-review-wetware-by-dennis-bray.html</a> - I&amp;apos;m also constantly amazed at the variety of machinations various species go through. Again very complex life cycles are everywhere: - <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090629081133.htm">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090629081133.htm</a></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fascinating battle has gone on: Are birds really dinosaurs: Long thought to be true, a recent article says ther bones don&amp;apos;t allow it. Birds need a certain bone structure for breathing. Also aerodynamic feathers are very complex, and there is no evidence how they arose, or when. (See Michael Denton, Evolution, A Theory in Crisis&amp;quot;, 1986) There is also a large time gap between possible dinosaur ancestors and the appearance of birds. - <a href="http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-06/osu-drn060809.php">http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-06/osu-drn060809.php</a></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fascinating study of a very simple organism demonstrates that the same adaptive mechanisms repeat 80 million years apart. Is this a fixed pattern of epigenetics or is the adaptive mechanism the only one coded into the DNA? At any rate random mutation or variation is not at play! Can any defender of Darwin explain this? To hammer the point home: this animal has only  one programmed way of adapting to environmental danger over a 100 million year period of time/evolution, and never advances beyond a certain point of body defense formation. - <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090609220721.htm">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090609220721.htm</a></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tiny primate skull has been found intact, dated to a few million years after the dinosaurs went extinct. The find changes the way large brain evolution is viewed. This brain had a very large sense of smell based on the size of the olefactory bulbs:     &amp;#13;&amp;#10;http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090622171359.htm</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example of rapid adaptation or epigenetic change in  E. coli.  <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090617131400.htm">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090617131400.htm</a></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under the &amp;quot;Earth Is A Very Special Place&amp;quot; title is an article that states, volcanic activity is a very important part of making a planet habitable: <a href="http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/615/2">http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/615/2</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting article on possible steps to speciation: <a href="http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/615/1">http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2009/615/1</a>  Typical Darwinian headline. Note objection at the end of the piece. - I don&amp;apos;t doubt this finding on Monkey intelligence at all:  <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17318-monkey-iq-test-hints-at-intelligent-human-ancestor.html">http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17318-monkey-iq-test-hints-at-intelligent-human-a...</a> - Dogs have been rated: Border Collies, 1; Poodles, 2; Rottweilers 9. We have Rotts. - Fish also have some intelligence and can observe: <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090616205515.htm">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090616205515.htm</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the mysteries of Life. Why is there sex and how did it appear, when originally single-celled organisms simply split in two?  <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227121.600-has-the-mystery-of-sex-been-explained-at-last.html">http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227121.600-has-the-mystery-of-sex-been-explaine...</a>  I promise the article cited is not pornographic, but written with hyper- exuberance.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>David: <em>Sex requires aging and death by whatever means. We are stuck with that reality.</em>&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; I shall give it up immediately. - I&amp;apos;m taking bets! And giving odds!</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 18:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: <em>Sex requires aging and death by whatever means. We are stuck with that reality.</em> - I shall give it up immediately.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have made a continuous argument that the DNA/RNA system is extremely complex, that there is little &amp;apos;junk&amp;apos; DNA, and the RNA contained in it is enormously vital to the genetic control of the organism. This article is an example of my point of view, showing how RNA can control reproduction, making a orchestra of genes (DNA) perform a function. <a href="http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S24/28/32C04/">http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S24/28/32C04/</a>  All of this code created by chance?</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 13:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don&amp;apos;t know why you say this is &amp;quot;<em>due to sex</em>&amp;quot; when there are so many other factors involved as well ... carnivorousness, disease, natural disasters, plus all the other survival instincts that have evolved into the selfishness which underlies many of our man-made disasters.  - Sorry to have been obtuse, but trying for an economy of words is not always conducive to a clear meaning. Early single-celled forms for 3 billion years reproduced by simply splitting in two (binary fission). Essentially there was no death. When sex appeared, it required aging and death, and this event is probably at the Cambrian Explosion were very complicated animal forms appeared, presumably male and female. The Edicaran and Bilatarian forms, which preceded, were very simple, and very likely did not have sex as an issue. Of all the abhorrant factors you list above, the only one that  does not lead to death is selfishness(if it does not lead to murder). Sex requires aging and death by whatever manner. We are stuck with that reality. - But a more interesting underlying issue is: how did sex arrive under Darwinian theory? Both sexes had to appear at the same time, or did organisms go through stages of hermaphroditism or parthenogenesis to get to clear sexuality? The latter process does appear in lower forms. But more importantly the Darwin method of evolution must have male and female appear at exacty the same time. Anyone have a just-so story for me to explain that conundrum? - Another issue like the one above that challenges Darwin: When humans got up on both legs, the female pelvis had to change shape, and as human brains grew the female pelvic outlet had to enlarge to accommodate bigger baby heads. The human birth canal is not apelike. There is a 90 degree angle and 180 twist to accomplish. No other primate has that. How is living birth accomplished over, let&amp;apos;s say, 6  million years, in humans, with both mother and baby simulateously changing size and shape, each individual with different DNA/RNA? Let&amp;apos;s have another just-so story.</p>
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