> Romansh: But you did not answer Jerry's criticisms of Noble's position.-Why bother. Minds smarter than mine conducted the Altenberg 16 because they see the huge gaps in Neo-Darwinism.

David: No creationists were present. 
> > 
> > Romansh: Apparently that does not stop creationists from misrepresenting the meeting?
> > 
> > ps Jerry Coyne on Altenberg 16
> > https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/are-we-ready-for-an-extended-evolut... 
> Only gives his opinion. So? Lots of folks think it is needed.
End of the day we are all giving our opinions. So?-But you did not answer Jerry's criticisms of Noble's position.

David: No creationists were present. 
> 
> Romansh: Apparently that does not stop creationists from misrepresenting the meeting?
> 
> ps Jerry Coyne on Altenberg 16
> https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/are-we-ready-for-an-extended-evolut... gives his opinion. So? Lots of folks think it is needed.

No creationists were present. -Apparently that does not stop creationists from misrepresenting the meeting?-ps Jerry Coyne on Altenberg 16
https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/are-we-ready-for-an-extended-evolutionary-synthesis/

David: I think you are unwilling to review new material and opinion. 
> Romansh:Comments like this make your thoughts increasingly immaterial David.
> 
> > David: Coyne wasn't included in the Altenburg 16, was he?
> 
> Romansh: And should he be?-> >> The Altenberg 16 controversy was spurred by a science meeting at the Konrad Lorenz Institute in 2008 which proposed an extended evolutionary synthesis that was misrepresented by creationists and similar types to attack evolutionary biology.-http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Altenberg_16_controversy-No creationists were present. There is an alternate view to your thinking. Are you afraid to review it?

Have you read Shapiro's book? 
No
> Have you watched Noble's video? 
Yes a couple of times on other fora. 
And so what?
> I think you are unwilling to review new material and opinion. 
Comments like this make your thoughts increasingly immaterial David.-> Coyne wasn't included in the Altenburg 16, was he?-And should he be?
>> The Altenberg 16 controversy was spurred by a science meeting at the Konrad Lorenz Institute in 2008 which proposed an extended evolutionary synthesis that was misrepresented by creationists and similar types to attack evolutionary biology. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Altenberg_16_controversy

Romansh: https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2013/08/25/famous-physiologist-embarrasses-him... you read Shapiro's book? Have you watched Noble's video? I think you are unwilling to review new material and opinion. Coyne wasn't included in the Altenburg 16, was he?