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HAMLET VERSUS DAWKINS DOGMA (reply)

xeno6696 — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 21:01:22 +0000

dhw, > One of my all-time favourite philosophy quotes (different context), which will certainly appeal to Matt's pragmatic side, is: > > LEONATES: For there was never yet philosopher > That could endure the toothache patiently. > (Much Ado, V, i) > > (Note to Matt: The dream quote is great, but I don't recognize it. Definitely not the Bard, but worthy of him! Source, please.)-Please point me to the relevant post where I had given the quote? Don't even remember it.

HAMLET VERSUS DAWKINS DOGMA (reply)

Balance_Maintained — Tue, 05 Oct 2010 14:09:05 +0000

The original poet frames it as a question, though as a question or a statement it is equally applicable now with the advent of quantum physics.-A Dream Within A Dream Take this kiss upon the brow! And, in parting from you now, Thus much let me avow- You are not wrong, who deem That my days have been a dream; Yet if hope has flown away In a night, or in a day, In a vision, or in none, Is it therefore the less gone? All that we see or seem Is but a dream within a dream.-I stand amid the roar Of a surf-tormented shore, And I hold within my hand Grains of the golden sand- How few! yet how they creep Through my fingers to the deep, While I weep- while I weep! O God! can I not grasp Them with a tighter clasp? O God! can I not save One from the pitiless wave? Is all that we see or seem But a dream within a dream? -Edgar Allan Poe

HAMLET VERSUS DAWKINS DOGMA (reply)

dhw — Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:29:01 +0000

GRAEME MOFFATT: As Shakespeare might have written had the times been different - "There are more things in heaven and earth, Mr Dawkins, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet was addressing Horatio, but the sentiment remains relevant even in the 21st century, when considering the dogmatic adherence of Dawkins and his acolytes to the belief that the physical world is all there is for us to wonder at.-A warm welcome to a fellow Shakespearian! If ever there was an example of the unfathomable capacity of the human mind, Will was it. In Hamlet versus Dawkins, I'll "make a solemn wager" on Hamlet.-One of my all-time favourite philosophy quotes (different context), which will certainly appeal to Matt's pragmatic side, is:-LEONATES: For there was never yet philosopher That could endure the toothache patiently. (Much Ado, V, i)-(Note to Matt: The dream quote is great, but I don't recognize it. Definitely not the Bard, but worthy of him! Source, please.)

HAMLET VERSUS DAWKINS DOGMA (reply)

Balance_Maintained — Tue, 05 Oct 2010 09:17:39 +0000

"All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream." I think that sums it up quite nicely as well :)

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Graeme Moffatt — Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:49:49 +0000

As Shakespeare might have written had the times been different - "There are more things in heaven and earth, Mr Dawkins, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet was addressing Horatio, but the sentiment remains relevant even in the 21st century, when considering the dogmatic adherence of Dawkins and his acolytes to the belief that the physical world is all there is for us to wonder at.