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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Standard Model is having trouble with its predictions:&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; <a href="http://phys.org/news/2012-06-babar-hint-standard.html-Peter">http://phys.org/news/2012-06-babar-hint-standard.html-Peter</a> Woit blogs that sigma for Higgs is very close:-http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=4772-at 125 gev</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 01:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Standard Model is having trouble with its predictions:-&amp;#13;&amp;#10;http://phys.org/news/2012-06-babar-hint-standard.html</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>DAVID: Much discussion about the Higgs. Now there is a prediction that five or more will be found. Peter Higgs may be multiplying!&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; <a href="http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt;">http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt;</a> &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; Please see my post of 06 May at 14.32, especially in the light of the science v. philosophy section of the blog!-I remembered reading your post when I saw it again. At times my brain is  like a sieve! Your posts are important.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 14:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAVID: Much discussion about the Higgs. Now there is a prediction that five or more will be found. Peter Higgs may be multiplying!-http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/-Please see my post of 06 May at 14.32, especially in the light of the science v. philosophy section of the blog!</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 10:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>GEORGE: <em>Higgs is in Bristol on 16th May if you want to find him!</em>&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; <a href="http://www.stgeorgesbristol.co.uk/events/graham-farmelo-peter-higgs/&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt;">http://www.stgeorgesbristol.co.uk/events/graham-farmelo-peter-higgs/&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt;</a> &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; <em>Graham Farmelo is the biographer of Paul Dirac.</em>---&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; It would have been fascinating to &amp;quot;find&amp;quot; Higgs and to hear his thoughts about the still missing boson. Alas, I can&amp;apos;t go - but thank you for the tip.-Much discussion about the Higgs. Now there is a prediction that five or more will be found. Peter Higgs may be multiplying!-http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 13:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GEORGE: <em>Higgs is in Bristol on 16th May if you want to find him!</em>-http://www.stgeorgesbristol.co.uk/events/graham-farmelo-peter-higgs/-<em>Graham Farmelo is the biographer of Paul Dirac.</em>----It would have been fascinating to &amp;quot;find&amp;quot; Higgs and to hear his thoughts about the still missing boson. Alas, I can&amp;apos;t go - but thank you for the tip.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 11:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Higgs is in Bristol on 16th May if you want to find him!-http://www.stgeorgesbristol.co.uk/events/graham-farmelo-peter-higgs/-Graham Farmelo is the biographer of Paul Dirac.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 13:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>George Jelliss</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to an article in today&amp;apos;s <em>Sunday Times</em>, Rolf-Dieter Heuer, director of the laboratory conducting the hunt for the Higgs boson (&amp;quot;<em>one of the longest and most costly in scientific history</em>&amp;quot;) thinks there may be up to five such particles. This could keep his team in work for 20 more years.-I&amp;apos;m sure we&amp;apos;ll all rejoice with Herrn Heuer at the prospect of his team&amp;apos;s job security. (&amp;quot;Heuer&amp;quot;, incidentally, is a North German word for a seaman&amp;apos;s pay.) But what really took my eye was his concluding comment: &amp;quot;<em>We will know if the Higgs exists at all by the end of this year. That I can pledge</em>.&amp;quot; -They will know, of course, if they find it. But if they don&amp;apos;t find it, they will not know that it doesn&amp;apos;t exist, and so they will not know if it does exist. As with God, so with the God particle. Ah well, perhaps in the next 20 years his team will have time to study a bit of philosophy.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 13:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No higgs yet, but a beauty baryon which fits the standard model in quantum chromodynamics:- <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=new-beauty-baryon-particle-discovered-at-large-hadron-collider&amp;WT.mc_id=SA_CAT_physics_20120504">http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=new-beauty-baryon-particle-discovered-...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 20:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New try for Higgs at higher energies:-http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/02/13/cern-scientists-crank-up-the-power-on-large-hadron-collider-to-try-to-find-higgs-boson/</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The battle rages. String theory is touted as predicting the size of Higgs. </p>
<p>Gordon Kane in Nature:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nature.com/news/particle-physics-is-at-a-turning-point-1.9675#/comment-34209">http://www.nature.com/news/particle-physics-is-at-a-turning-point-1.9675#/comment-34209</a></p>
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Woit disagrees:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=4262">http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=4262</a></p>
<p>And so his blog commenters</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 01:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An observation that we may never reach a theory of everything.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/2011/12/17/does-the-goddamn-higgs-particle-portend-the-end-of-physics/?WT_mc_id=SA_DD_20111219">http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/2011/12/17/does-the-goddamn-higgs-parti...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the math explains it so well, it has to be there: expect it, ye of little faith:</p>
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<a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8956938/Higgs-boson-the-particle-of-faith.html">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8956938/Higgs-boson-the-particle-of-faith.html</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A simple explanation about Higgs:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204026804577098382660789136.html?KEYWORDS=Michio+Kaku">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204026804577098382660789136.html?KEYWORDS...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting closer:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=lhc-higgs-hints-cern&amp;WT.mc_id=SA_DD_20111214">http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=lhc-higgs-hints-cern&amp;WT.mc_id=SA_D...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Is that higgs at 119 GeV?:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.science20.com/quantum_diaries_survivor/lhc_combination_higgs_limits_mh141_gev-84800">http://www.science20.com/quantum_diaries_survivor/lhc_combination_higgs_limits_mh141_ge...</a></p>
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The &amp;apos;why&amp;apos; of higgs. Introduces Peter Higgs. The alternative to no higgs:</p>
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<a href="http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/basic-space/2011/11/27/why-the-higgs-boson-matters/?WT_mc_id=SA_DD_20111129">http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/basic-space/2011/11/27/why-the-higgs-boson-matters/...</a></p>
</blockquote><p>Still waiting for Higgs; one Gev range left:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15991392">http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15991392</a></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 02:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is that higgs at 119 GeV?:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.science20.com/quantum_diaries_survivor/lhc_combination_higgs_limits_mh141_gev-84800">http://www.science20.com/quantum_diaries_survivor/lhc_combination_higgs_limits_mh141_ge...</a></p>
</blockquote><p>The &amp;apos;why&amp;apos; of higgs. Introduces Peter Higgs. The alternative to no higgs:</p>
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<a href="http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/basic-space/2011/11/27/why-the-higgs-boson-matters/?WT_mc_id=SA_DD_20111129">http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/basic-space/2011/11/27/why-the-higgs-boson-matters/...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Introduction</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>That is a very very narrow window. Do you think they will find it? Personally, I doubt it.</p>
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That leaves those other theoretical alternatives, W &amp; Z, etc. We shall see.</p>
</blockquote><p>Is that higgs at 119 GeV?:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.science20.com/quantum_diaries_survivor/lhc_combination_higgs_limits_mh141_gev-84800">http://www.science20.com/quantum_diaries_survivor/lhc_combination_higgs_limits_mh141_ge...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 01:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That is a very very narrow window. Do you think they will find it? Personally, I doubt it.</p>
</blockquote><p>That leaves those other theoretical alternatives, W &amp; Z, etc. We shall see.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a very very narrow window. Do you think they will find it? Personally, I doubt it.</p>
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