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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The latest view:-http://www.evolutionnews.org/2014/06/why_cant_we_exp086381.html</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romansh is simply pointing out that the switching you&amp;apos;re discussing doesn&amp;apos;t have to be modeled in hardware.  It can be done in software, and in my mind, without drastically increasing complexity.-I still hold that the current, von neumann architecture we use is completely ill suited for that task.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 20:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>No, no. I&amp;apos;ve followed you. What you are missing is the innate plasticity of brain cells, altering themselves and taking over diffferent functions. In a recent paper fibers to the optic centers were cut and shifted to the auditory center and &amp;apos;seeing&amp;apos; still occurred. The blind develop extremely heigthened alternate senses, but you knew that.&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; Also it does not have to be a physical plasticity - it could be a digital plasticity instead.-the cells adopt a new function, and they do it biochemically. where does digital come in?</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 19:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No, no. I&amp;apos;ve followed you. What you are missing is the innate plasticity of brain cells, altering themselves and taking over diffferent functions. In a recent paper fibers to the optic centers were cut and shifted to the auditory center and &amp;apos;seeing&amp;apos; still occurred. The blind develop extremely heigthened alternate senses, but you knew that.-Also it does not have to be a physical plasticity - it could be a digital plasticity instead.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &gt; Naughty naughty... you haven&amp;apos;t kept up with my AI posts.  All experts agree that the key to &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; AI is first in having a computer that fundamentally recreates the architecture of the brain.  (If you want, I can go into detail again.)&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &gt; That article is flawed however.  We will never learn truth about  consciousness, without trying to create it ourselves.  Just as a true chef, can only learn cooking by mixing and tasting her ingredients...&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; No, no. I&amp;apos;ve followed you. What you are missing is the innate plasticity of brain cells, altering themselves and taking over diffferent functions. In a recent paper fibers to the optic centers were cut and shifted to the auditory center and &amp;apos;seeing&amp;apos; still occurred. The blind develop extremely heigthened alternate senses, but you knew that.-True, but we need to be able to build a reliable memristor type machine first before we can do something fancy like a machine that rewires itself over time.  -Baby steps.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 16:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Humans</category><dc:creator>xeno6696</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; Naughty naughty... you haven&amp;apos;t kept up with my AI posts.  All experts agree that the key to &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; AI is first in having a computer that fundamentally recreates the architecture of the brain.  (If you want, I can go into detail again.)&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; That article is flawed however.  We will never learn truth about  consciousness, without trying to create it ourselves.  Just as a true chef, can only learn cooking by mixing and tasting her ingredients...-No, no. I&amp;apos;ve followed you. What you are missing is the innate plasticity of brain cells, altering themselves and taking over diffferent functions. In a recent paper fibers to the optic centers were cut and shifted to the auditory center and &amp;apos;seeing&amp;apos; still occurred. The blind develop extremely heigthened alternate senses, but you knew that.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Humans</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p><a href="http://www.kurzweilai.net/report-on-the-fourth-conference-on-artificial-general-intelligence&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt;">http://www.kurzweilai.net/report-on-the-fourth-conference-on-artificial-general-intelli...</a> &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; A different view. Unless we understand consciousness and recognize that the brain is not a computer AI will never happen:&amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; &amp;#13;&amp;#10;&gt; <a href="http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/why-minds-are-not-like-computers-Naughty">http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/why-minds-are-not-like-computers-Naughty</a> naughty... you haven&amp;apos;t kept up with my AI posts.  All experts agree that the key to &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; AI is first in having a computer that fundamentally recreates the architecture of the brain.  (If you want, I can go into detail again.)-That article is flawed however.  We will never learn truth about  consciousness, without trying to create it ourselves.  Just as a true chef, can only learn cooking by mixing and tasting her ingredients...</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.kurzweilai.net/report-on-the-fourth-conference-on-artificial-general-intelligence-A">http://www.kurzweilai.net/report-on-the-fourth-conference-on-artificial-general-intelli...</a> different view. Unless we understand consciousness and recognize that the brain is not a computer AI will never happen:-http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/why-minds-are-not-like-computers</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Humans</category><dc:creator>David Turell</dc:creator>
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<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 21:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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