Goldylocks zone planet: very few must exist (Introduction)

by David Turell , Friday, March 10, 2017, 19:42 (2606 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: It is the vastness and remoteness of these billions of solar systems extant and extinct that underlie my scepticism.

DAVID: Are you forgetting how special this universe has to be in fine tuning for life to appear. Therefore the universe had to be planned in a very special way to evolve to the point when the Earth formed. Solar systems came and went until the right one appeared.

dhw: And there you have the nub of this particular matter. Are you, then, saying that your God experimented with billions of wrong solar systems until he was able to create the right one

DAVID: God worked with an evolving universe. Look at the whole picture, not bits and pieces.

dhw: According to you, God made the universe to evolve so that it would produce humans. But you only look at bits and pieces in the form of those factors which we know gave rise to life and eventually to humans. So once again: please look at the whole picture and tell me why you think a solar system that died billions of years ago, billions of light years away from our own, might have been vital for the production of human beings.

You are totally missing my big picture. I have presented the idea that God uses evolutionary processes. Evolutions progress under rules of development as the universe did and still does. God did not look at 'experimental solar systems'. Our system is extremely rare as shown by its fine tuning: 20 major parameters and over 100 minor ones with more being added as we discuss. When it appeared five billion years ago, God either stepped in and guided Earth's development or it developed under His original rules. You will see this concept parallels my pre-planning or dabbling concept in regards to evolution of living organisms. You are looking in wonder at the first 8.8 billion years of the universe before ours arrived to bring up those dead solar systems. It simply took that long to create ours! Of course, since you don't believe in God, you have every right to question His methods. I look to find His methods in what we know about cosmology.