Goldylocks zone planet: very few must exist (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, March 11, 2017, 19:55 (2605 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: You are totally missing my big picture. I have presented the idea that God uses evolutionary processes. Evolutions progress under rules of development as the universe did and still does.

dhw:For those who believe in God and evolution, of course God uses evolutionary processes which develop! The dispute between us is to what extent he planned the whole course of evolution (every solar system, every organism), to what extent his powers are limited, and to what extent he deliberately allows the evolutionary processes to go their own way.

I have said it occurs to me He setup an evolutionary system with rules of development. this fits the pre=planning concept and then He could dabble if he had to.

DAVID: God did not look at 'experimental solar systems'.

dhw: Another of your authoritative statements. How do you know?

I don't know, but if He set up an evolutionary system, He didn't ever have to experiment. Not authoritative if it follows the first premise.

DAVID: Our system is extremely rare as shown by its fine tuning: […] God either stepped in and guided Earth's development or it developed under His original rules. You will see this concept parallels my pre-planning or dabbling concept in regards to evolution of living organisms. […]I look to find His methods in what we know about cosmology.

dhw: although he knew and planned everything in advance, he may have kept discovering new limits and therefore HAVING to dabble (because his powers, but not his knowledge, may be limited) – but discovering and adapting cannot be called experimenting. All these convolutions suggest to me that your God-planned-it-all-for-humans hypothesis must at least be open to question.

We all have questions and you are just as convoluted.

dhw: I neither believe nor disbelieve in God, but I have every right to question your interpretation both of his methods and of his intentions when they leave such colossal gaps. I wonder how many of your fellow theists believe that God planned every solar system and every evolutionary innovation, lifestyle and natural wonder, extant and extinct, in order to produce humans?

You keep repeating a wrong interpretation of my theory that He set up a continuous evolutionary process for the universe that produced solar systems on its own until ours appeared. Most theists agree with the thought that God can do anything. I'm one who is not sure of that. He obviously planned for our solar system.