New Miscellany Parts 1 &:2: evolution, eco, intelligence. (General)

by David Turell , Wednesday, April 30, 2025, 17:26 (1 day, 6 hours, 55 min. ago) @ dhw

Evolution

DAVID: The fallacy in your argument is the extinct did leave descendants, the surviving species.

dhw: By definition, the surviving species did not go extinct!!! 696 species of dinosaur went extinct, 4 species of dinosaur did not go extinct. Those were the survivors! Now please tell us what constitutes the “real” continuum.

DAVID: You have memorized one minor example where four dinosaur species went extinct and left bird survivors. Proves my point: a continuum of extinction and survival.

dhw: 696 dinosaur species went extinct, and four survivors left descendants!!! At least get the figures right. And now we’re told that a continuum is 99.9% NOT continuous, and 01.% continuous! The dinosaur example confirms your own belief that approx. 99.9% go extinct and approx. 0.1% survive. W

Wow: among our birds are four living dinosaurs according to your weird form of evolution.

Zombification

DAVID: God always knew exactly what He was doing. He produced everything He wished.

dhw: And that is why he produced 99.9% out of 100% species he did not wish for, and he specially designed zombification because humans could not survive without it.

Why do you constantly forget ecosystems support life? Including zombies.

Plants using heat

DAVID: All part of ecosystems that give us food.

dhw: Just like all the ecosystems that came and went for 3,000,000,000+ years before humans arrived on the scene. All created just for us!

Subject dropped.

Why dredge up old ecosystems 3byo!

Mind and cosmos

QUOTES: Intelligence may exist and evolve on its own, without emerging within living organisms.

DAVID: In NDE's the consciousness appears to be separate from the brain.

dhw: The idea that intelligence is an immaterial “ fundamental property of the universe” begs the question of whether the universe would exist if it wasn’t for all its materials. That is one of the great mysteries presented by the God theory: how could consciousness exist on its own without a source? And what would it be conscious of, if nothing else existed? And what is meant by “tapping into” a property outside the brain? Are all our thoughts contained in an outside something or the other, and our non-thinking brain somehow calls on the thoughts to enter it?

I felt these questions were simply glossed over by the author and ignored by you.

In NDE's consciousness seems to separate from a non-functioning brain, and be functioning.