Clever Corvids: using tools (Introduction)

by dhw, Monday, August 31, 2015, 19:24 (3161 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: You just happen to know that corvids are intelligent and bacteria are not.
 -DAVID: Anyone with a brain can do a bit of thinking. Bacteria?-Isn't it amazing that experts like Margulis, Shapiro, McClintock, Albrecht-Buehler etc. never thought of that! Or could it just be that there are different forms of intelligence, and bacteria have different means of thinking? -It's also interesting that in your correspondence with Romansh you continue to refer to NDEs as possible evidence that thought can be independent of the brain. (I'm not dismissing that argument - simply pointing out the inconsistency.) After all, if God exists, one presumes he can think, but does one also presume he has a brain?

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Clever Corvids: using tools (Introduction)