Afterlife (Endings)

by BBella , Monday, January 28, 2013, 07:08 (4105 days ago) @ dhw
edited by unknown, Monday, January 28, 2013, 07:18

Dhw: I find it surprising that some people want to stay in the "IBT", as if they no longer care about the people they are leaving behind. 
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> BBELLA: It isn't that you no longer care, or even will forget them, it's that you are moving back into your other identity, yet you aren't quite there yet. I would like to think that when you do finally make it fully into the other identity, you will remember everything. 
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>dhw: Which other identity? We'll have had so many.-I'm wondering if you have vivid dreams? Some people don't have any memory of dreams when they wake up and some have very fuzzy memories or barely any, so it might be more difficult to understand. I just happen to be one of those who dream in technicolor and many times a dream will have a beginning and ending just like a movie. Yet, when I wake up, I have only one identity even if I could remember vividly all my different identities in all of my dreams, I know who I am and who I am not when I am awake. I don't get confused, even when I dream continuing dreams that take off where the other leaves off...I still wake up and know who I am and do not confuse myself with my dream life self. No matter what I've experienced in my dreams, I am still the same person that experienced both all my dreams and this life. So, even a human brain can, in some small sense, imagine what it might be like in an Afterlife scenario with many lives yet one soul. If we, as humans, can handle vivid dreaming most every night and not get confused between our night life and day life, I would like to think a soul connected to the collective memory and consciousness of the ATI would have no problem handling my Afterlife scenario. -As you probably know there are a lot of older tribes, the aborigine being one, that believe this life is the dream life and we go back to the real life when we die, so it's not a new concept. ->You wrote that caring "would be different from the perspective of eternity", but if Hitler and his like keep choosing to be monsters, will the eternal perspective be "It doesn't matter"? What purpose can ANY experience serve then? What will be balanced with what in your ideal scenario?-I can only speak of what I would like things to be. And in that vein, a soul that chose a life like Hitler, would not "keep choosing" lives to be what we on earth consider evil or monsters and would have only done so in the first place, for the betterment of Earths future. I would like to think that souls in the IBT have an understanding that makes EVERYTHING make sense, even those things that to us seem senseless. 
 
> BBELLA: I would like to think the reason a person can't imagine so many different lives and of being an eternal being with choices to incarnate here or there, is, for the most part, because we have limited capacity consciousness. Not because it is actually limited (because in some sense all consciousness is connected), but because the material brain is still evolving with the material world and so cannot imagine anything apart from the material world.
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>dhw: If I have such a thing as a soul, it has to be the me who directs the material brain (as opposed to a me created by and dependent on the material brain ... in which case there is no soul and no afterlife). But that soul still has to be limited if it is to be me and nobody else. If there are a whole lot of totally different "me's" who are reincarnated in different forms on Earth and don't remember being me, they might as well be a whole lot of other people. If they all come together in the IBT, as nice dhw's and nasty dhw's, loving BBella's, murderous BBella's, shan't we need the services of a heavenly shrink? And even then, what "me" will he/she come up with?-Sorry, I am completely lost with your last paragraph.