Bacterial motors carefully studied (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Monday, April 11, 2016, 00:54 (805 days ago) @ dhw

We need to be clear about evidence for what. The complexity of the cell is mind-boggling, and it is fair enough to break it down to its individual components in order to emphasize just how mind-boggling it is. ... But that is not the subject we have been discussing, which is the question of how speciation takes place. ... The complexity of the process provides no “evidence” for your hypothetical explanation (preprogramming and/or dabbling) or for mine (an autonomous IM, possibly God-given).

But in my mind it does. First, are the advances at random or with purpose? Can you pick one? Or do you find a third choice? I don't. If you don't accept chance advances, and you've said you don't, what else is there but purpose and design. Once that issue is settled the complexity of advances (try whales again) requires planning. Complex planning which only minds can do. Read about whales if you don't believe me.

dhw: But since yours goes so far as to demand God's active participation even in matters of lifestyle (the monarch) and natural wonders (the weaverbird's nest) - regardless of cellular complexity, and apparently all for the sake of humans - it is not just a matter of "evidence". I simply find my hypothesis more cohesive than yours!

The things in the above paragraph that disturb you are extrapolations of mine from the basic observations about speciation problems. You've invented an IM that glosses over all of these considerations.

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