More Denton: A new book (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, March 06, 2016, 01:50 (2975 days ago) @ BBella


> > David: At least you definitely accept that something is eternal and has consciousness. Something with consciousness could then plan our reality, design not chance.
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> BBella: If there is ONE Conscious being that planned and created All That Is, would that suggest that the ONE being came before All That Is and would had to have created All That Is from no-thing? Is that even probable/possible?-Something is eternal. You cannot get something from a true nothing. Whatever is eternal created ATI.
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> BBella: If energy, matter and consciousness all arrived at the same time, or always existed together, but at some point consciousness, with or without bodies, began to intelligently plan and create life as we know from what was available at the time - would said creators deserve/demand worship from the created? After all, what was created was made from already available stuff. And why would said creators not continue to hang around to guide the created? Why the great mystery hanging over the created beings head?-Consciousness cannot be amorphous if it is planning and designing. The energy/matter provide the raw materials. 
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> BBella If there is ONE conscious, intelligent being that planned and created All That Is, as David proposes, why would this ONE intelligent being, who could create such wondrous life from nothing (or from available material), allow the horrors of life as we know it? -You are asking about theodicy, but that applies only if you assign religions' definition of God's personality. How do you know God is loving or for that matter caring? We don't know that. Life is wondrous only from our viewpoint.
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> BBella: If YOU were the ONE creator of life as we know it and had all the power to create, how would YOU have done, or would do it differently, to bring about a different outcome?-That thought never occurred to me. I don't know what change would improve what we have. We have the brains to solve all problems. It is just that we haven't gotten there yet. I view God as a tough-love parent. We should solve problems by ourselves, by being self-reliant. 
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> BBella: One last ponder (for now): If the creator of life as we know it used available material to create, that would have to mean that consciousness too was/is a part of that available material. If we are made from the same stuff as our creator, what makes us different than our creator?-We are made "in the image" through our consciousness. We just don't have the same intellectual capacity.