Unanswered questions (General)

by dhw, Wednesday, June 26, 2019, 11:40 (1766 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Why you cannot accept my belief that God took complete charge of designing evolution, I cannot understand. It is my belief and makes perfect sense to me. You believe your humanized God wouldn't have done it that way. Tell me what you think He did.

dhw: What do you mean by “designing evolution”? According to you he specially designed every single life form, lifestyle and natural wonder. But according to you he had only one purpose, which was to design one particular species. THAT is what doesn’t make sense! I keep offering you different hypotheses concerning what he might have done, and you have found all of them perfectly logical. Do you really want me to repeat the list?

DAVID: It makes no sense to your humanized God, as you imagine Him. God viewed humans as his desired endpoint.

An opinion stated as fact. You cannot read God’s mind any more than I can.

DAVID: Evolution is one whole process. You are dividing evolution into parts, make everything else and then pop in humans.

That is precisely what you have proposed: he specially designed every life form extinct and extant, and then specially designed humans. Yes, evolution is a “whole process” if you believe in common descent, with millions of life forms coming and going. Each species is a “part”, and according to you, humans are unlike any other species, which makes them a special “part”. I do not know why you believe the weaverbird’s nest to be part of your God’s special design of humans.

DAVID: You won't accept the importance of econiches for food supply. Only plants can make their own food.

dhw: Of course econiches are important for food supply. But that obvious fact does not explain why your God would specially design all these different econiches to feed millions of different life forms which he has specially designed, when according to you the only species he wanted to create and did eventually specially design was us.

DAVID: Your strange version. Evolution is one process used to create humans. All under one original purpose. Stop dividing it up!

Evolution is one process which history shows to have created millions of different life forms. Once again: you are dividing evolution up into lots and lots of different econiches, life forms, lifestyles and natural wonders, all of which you claim were/are specially designed and yet were necessary to fulfil your God’s sole purpose of specially designing humans,though you have no idea why they were necessary.

DAVID: As long as you humanize God, He will appear as weak and confused as most humans can be. It is your problem, not mine.

Where do you get weakness and confusion from? Why, for instance, is it weak and confused to propose that your God enjoys his own creativity? What is confused about the deliberate creation of a mechanism that will provide an infinite variety of creations? Even within your own hypothesis, why is it weak and confused to perform experiments and observe their results? Your rigid hypothesis presents a God who only wants one thing but specially designs millions of other things, as described repeatedly above. As long you impose your own interpretation of his purpose and method, the obvious confusion will be yours, not your God’s.