David's theory of evolution Part Two (Evolution)

by David Turell , Sunday, November 24, 2019, 21:34 (1612 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: There again is your weird twist of my thoughts. I view nothing I think about God as illogical.

dhw: So why do you say that the above theory is not illogical “if one does not apply human reasoning to the actual history”?

DAVID: I don't try 'reasoning' what God might have thought in making His choice to evolve human over the time we know it took. You are the one who tries to look into His thought process. The only true reasoning I have done is conclude, with Adler, humans were His goal.

dhw: So your message is that if your theory cannot be applied to the actual history of life, we mustn’t try to understand it. And if anyone offers an alternative theory which can be applied to the actual history, presumably we should ignore it because it's humanly logical. Not the most edifying approach to any issue!

Again a total twist. You try to read God's mind. You and I can't. I fully accept history as God's work. That does not require a theory. I don't buy your theories about God's thoughts, and you do not buy Adler's and my tenor about humans as a goal, because of our most unusual specialness, which you admit and then try to ignore. I guess we are even if not further ahead.

DAVID: Once again we cannot apply human reasoning to what God has done. My reasoning has lead me to accept God as the prime mover and humans were His goal, without delving into His reasoning.

dhw: Perfectly acceptable premises until you combine them with the following comment:
DAVID: Of course there were intermediate goals like using the bush of life to set up necessary econiches.

dhw: Necessary for what? If he was in total charge and his one and only goal was to design humans, why did he need to specially design 3.X billion years’ worth of non-human econiches? You have no idea, you agree that this theory is illogical by human standards, and so I mustn’t ask such questions.

God fully understands the necessity for econiches. You can ask all the questions you want, but your inquires are all illogical. All you have to accept is God chose to evolve humans as history tells us. All aspects of God's work are in full view.

DAVID: As I apply my reasoning to the process of evolution, I have concluded reasonably that God must be in charge. The designs in the biochemistry of life require the mind of a designer.

dhw: No problem with the logic of either statement. Once again, it is the combination of your fixed beliefs which defies all human reason.

Sadly, only your reasoning. You do not understand a belief in God. It accepts the history of what He has done.