Miscellany (General)

by David Turell , Thursday, December 24, 2020, 21:40 (1211 days ago) @ dhw

Fine tuning and also Our galaxy has ancient clusters

DAVID: Your usual complaint, God shouldn't have done it that way.

dhw: Your usual dodge. Your theory as bolded makes no sense even to you, and so I have proposed that there is something wrong with at least one of your basic premises. I have offered theistic alternatives, every one of which fits in logically with the history of evolution, as you have agreed time and time again. Once more: the criticism is of your theory about God’s way. You should not assume that your way was God’s way.

It is not my way. It is God's way as history tells us. The theory makes perfect sense to me. Please don't tell me how to logically think as you do in the bolded above. Since God is in change of creation how He did it is sheer undeniable history. What you object to is my statement that humans were His eventual goal. Since we are here against all chance ideas, Adler's thought and mine are entirely logical.

Egnor’s latest
dhw: Why do you have to study Jewish doctrines before you decide what you believe about ant souls?

DAVID: Over six thousand years of theology offers some points to consider.

dhw: I don’t think your belief in the human soul (dualism) is the result of your studying six thousand years of Jewish theology. All of a sudden, though, you can’t decide whether ants have souls until you are told by Jewish theologians what you should or shouldn’t believe!

DAVID: some Jewish theology sneaks into my belief system.

dhw: That still doesn’t explain why you believe in human and animal souls but have to rely on someone else’s beliefs before you can decide whether you believe in ant souls.

I have always believed dogs have animal souls. Since ants communicate, they can be said to have souls

Privileged planet
DAVID:: There are so many cycles on our Earth, and they all relate to the fact that life is here. Our evolved over 4.5 billion years which is part of the evidence aht God prefers to evolve all his creations.

dhw: If God exists and if we believe in evolution, then of course God decided to evolve all his creations. As above, that does not mean he directly designed every one of them, or that he did so “as part of the goal of evolving [directly designing] humans” plus their food supply, bearing in mind that 99% of them had no connection with humans.

In my study I've come to fully believe God is the designer of everything. You can stick to non-belief and we will continue to disagree.