Back to David's theory of evolution: God's error corrections (Evolution)

by David Turell , Tuesday, August 04, 2020, 19:13 (1353 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: We are discussing two periods in time. My statement above is quite clear. Please re-read it. It means during evolution, when errors occurred by the molecules, He stepped in and made corrections.

dhw: According to you, God is not doing anything in the present. So what period in time are you referring to when you say he couldn’t stop the molecular errors, was correcting as much as he could, high speed reactions can have errors God can’t control, and he can’t stop molecular errors in a system he created? And are you telling us that during pre-sapiens evolution, all animals – other than those that were eaten – died of old age?

You are correct. I view evolution is over and God is not active biologically: As I've stated several times, during evolution God corrected every mistake He wished to correct. Now we handle the job, as best we can. God has always known the molecules can make mistakes. You are having trouble sorting out the issue. Protein molecules must conform their shapes to provide functions. They are under strict instructions, but can make mistakes. End of story. Since this has all been surprising news to you, but not me, I've not explained it as well as I should have. as for dying, I don't know why you asked that question. It is obvious death is builtin, first to make room for those arriving, but from many other causes, disease, accident, predators, mutational mistakes, etc.

dhw: We are talking about evolution, and you can’t see the contradiction: God “fully recognized his inability to control the molecules”, but he “corrected everything”! How do you correct what you can’t control? […]

Covered above. Shows your continual confusion. As God ran evolution He engineered DNA, and allowed some beneficial mutations and destroyed others.

DAVID: It is completely clear to me. At all times the molecules are free to make rare mistakes in the high speed biochemical reactions of living functions.

dhw: According to you, the “rare” mistakes include those deliberately designed to kill through old age, and those that accidentally kill any organism unlucky enough to suffer them before old age, plus those that arise purely by chance and CANNOT be controlled by God although he CAN allow them if beneficial and CAN correct all those that he doesn’t like. Once again. How do you correct something you can’t control and can’t stop?

Still confused. See above answer. You've actually answered yourself as bolded

DAVID: Please note the article on
DNA correction: Sunday, August 02, 2020, 20:40
DAVID: The concept is the molecules are free to make errors always. Now we try to correct errors.

DAVID: At all times the molecules are free to make rare mistakes in the high speed biochemical reactions of living functions.

dhw: Yes, at all times, throughout the history of speciation. And whether your God can or can’t control them, one of those “mistakes” may have “arranged for our human evolution”, and you have delivered a powerful blow to your theory that your God directly designed every species.

The only blow is only your continual confusion. If God allowed a DNA mistake because it fit his plans, He is still in full control. And remember all bad mistakes by DNA were removed as I view God's role..