David's theory of evolution: God's error corrections II (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, October 16, 2020, 15:25 (1287 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: Your usual digression from the point at issue.We both believe in evolution, and if God exists, we both agree that he chose to “evolve” ALL multicellular species from bacteria. There is no point in my repeating my comment above, so I’ll restrict this post to one simple question, because last time I did that I got a straight answer: Please tell us what part the brontosaurus played in fulfilling “the goal of evolving (= directly designing) humans.”

DAVID: Simply another step in complexification as a part of the continuum of evolution of humans. You refuse to recognize how evolution works to produce a desired result from simple to complex. You want God to have created a direct line to humans with no branches. That would mean no food supply. When will you take all the history into account? We are discussing God's role in creation of evolution you agreed in red above. The brontosaurus is one of God's creations on the way

dhw: This time, no straight answer. Previously you wrote: “Of course the brontosaurus is not directly connected to us. […] Each step has a bush of food supply for all. Each step is self-sufficient at the time of that step.” Evolution is NOT the history of a continuum of humans. It is the history of countless life forms branching out in different directions, and 99% of these led to extinction. If each step was self-sufficient and 99% died out, you have 1% surviving. What has survived has provided the food supply for humans, so why did your God directly design (your theory) all the life forms that went extinct? You have asked exactly the right question. When will you take ALL the history into account?

I have taken all the history into account. Evolution is a process which included the brontosaurus, even if the brontosaurus has no direct relationship to us. The huge resulting bush is food supply. You keep suggesting a compressed process of creation by God. History tells us God chose to evolve us. Obvious conclusion from a belief in God.

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Under Extinction of earlier forms

QUOTE: "Their studies offer robust evidence that three Homo species—H. erectus, H. heidelbergensis, and H. neanderthalensis—lost a significant portion of their climatic niche just before going extinct.”

dhw: You could hardly have a clearer example of how changing conditions result in the ever changing bush of life. But I can't help wondering why your God would have designed all of these homos in the first place, if he only wanted to design H. sapiens. And did he deliberately change the environment in order to get rid of them? I can't help feeling that if God was in total control, as you always tell us, and only wanted H. sapiens, this all sounds like experimentation. The alternative would be a free-for-all, with ALL species coming and going according to their autonomous ability to cope with changing conditions. Any other explanation you can think of?

The Neanderthals supplied certain immunity to is. Denisovans gave high altitude genes. Perhaps we haven't discovered as yet other contributions from other forms.