Back to David's theory of evolution: God's error corrections (Evolution)

by David Turell , Monday, August 10, 2020, 14:52 (1354 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Use your imagination. I have God is charge of coding the advances in evolution. He creates the DNA code. We know that DNA can make replication copy errors. Therefore God is watching for those errors. If it is a bad mutation, as most are , He deletes it. If it happens to be beneficial for the advancing evolutionary code He wants, He keeps it. How is that not total control of the final DNA output? As you type a story you may make mistakes and correct them. The final output is obviously fully your work under your total control.

dhw: 1) The errors in the system are/were not confined to those which did or didn't advance evolution! According to the above scenario, the “final DNA output” should have been perfect, since he deleted the bad mutations. But even during pre-sapiens evolution, according to you “He was correcting as much as he could”, and surprise, surprise, the DNA system is STILL making mistakes, some of which are the SAME as in pre-sapiens times (e.g. cancer).

You are still are time confused. It is quite clear to me under my theory of God in control of evolution, that He accepted good DNA mistakes and voided the bad ones during evolution. As the final arbiter over the DNA code, He is really in full control of the final result. The key thought, which you keep confusing is DNA as a molecule can always make mistakes and will during evolution and now in a different time period. In the bold, your 'STILL' to accept my point of view should be changed to 'ALWAYS'.

dhw: Your analogy clearly indicates your confusion: my mistakes as an author are my fault, but according to you, “if He couldn’t stop the molecular faults, then they are not his fault.” In both cases, if the “final output” is still full of errors – whose fault is it?

You are not thinking with clarity. You never presented an error-ridden manuscript to a publisher. You corrected all your errors. God accepted some errors as correct and deleted others during the process of evolution producing the humans/sapiens He wanted from the DNA code He wanted and designed and allowed..

dhw: The “different situation totally” is that the system continues to be full of errors... If his only concern then was evolution, why did he leave backups for the non-evolutionary blunders (though he himself couldn't correct them)? In fact, you say he has left it to us to try and correct the errors he could not stop or control. How does this support your argument that he was in total control and corrected the bad mutations?

Again you are mistakenly trying to combine two periods of time. In evolution God corrected everything and we appeared. The backup systems indicate He expected errors after evolution.

dhw: The “final output” is still riddled with errors! Here are the two basic sets of contradictions:

1) He directly designed all species (old theory), but he selected the beneficial random mutations that led to speciation (new theory). Which is it?

Both!!!!!

dhw: 2) You have also told us he is all-powerful and you have told he is not all-powerful; he is in total control but he is not in total control.

He made all final editorial decisions about evolutionary DNA. Total control!!!

dhw: There is clearly something wrong somewhere. Please don’t just repeat your new theory, because then I shall have to repeat the different contradictory quotes. I just wish you would reconsider it, since it can only lead to more and more contradictions like your author analogy.

The only contradictions are in your head. Your friend, David, has always known about DNA errors, as well as errors by any and all biochemical molecules. It is a fact of the system God created all those molecules are subject to strict instructions and backup systems. But they still make errors. I knew you would be startled when I introduced this subject, but I knew I had to broaden your knowledge. You and I are both having copy errors right now without noticing. Our cells are constantly dividing but the image in the mirror doesn't change. Why? Most of the errors are corrected, as designed, and we live on, unaware, as God planned.