Innovation (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, May 04, 2013, 22:22 (4020 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: My conclusion is that evolution occurred, but under divine controls, more or less, again unclear as to how much or how little.[/i]
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> dhw: Thank you. This is a great help to our understanding of each other. My only objection is to the word "preprogrammed", which suggests that he built into the very first organisms a programme for all the organs that would in due course lead to humans. -In a way, yes, but I feel speciation requires dabbling.-> 
> DAVID: the fact that savannah proposals don't explain the willingness to climb down into danger. It would be just as important to explain why the apes didn't descend.[/i]-> dhw:You only need a few localized "savannah" disasters over millions of years to explain why there were no trees for apes to live in. What is your alternative? -There have always been trees and savannahs close by. Just migrate to find them. You have not answered my speculation. Apes stayed up, we climbed down, all in the same geologic periods. Why?-
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> dhw: I have always accepted that a first cause of some type started everything. Nothing can come from nothing. But that doesn't make our three concepts any the more believable. That's why your choice ultimately depends on faith.-We agree on first choice, but you will accept nothing to have a belief in. Fair enough. The picket fence forever!