Innovation (Introduction)

by David Turell , Sunday, May 05, 2013, 22:15 (4019 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw:Your universal consciousness is a single entity which has been aware of itself for ever and ever and has created the universe and every form of life. Is this what Sheldrake believes? I can't see any contradiction between panpsychism and species consciousness. Please enlighten me.-Read Sheldrake please. His morphogenic fields have to do with phenotype guidance in embryo formation. And his species consciousness implied universal consciousness levels as I have previously explained. Panpsychism is somehow having consciousness affecting cells and reaching into cells. But as I have explained to you, over and over, cells are automatons.
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> dhw: If we discount materialism for the sake of this particular argument, human intelligent energy is the conscious force that creates ideas, designs, art etc. and enables us to manipulate materials, including our own (e.g. if I want to move, my intelligent energy sends the relevant message to the rest of my body).-I agree-> dhw: In exactly the same way, intelligent energy is the force within materials that enables organisms to innovate. Your God is first-cause energy which has been intelligent for ever and ever, so define him and it! The concept I'm proposing also implies structure, but instead of this being imposed from outside by a single inventor, it is created from within.-Just admit that the 'innovation force' of each cell is in the genome, present from the beginning of life and we might be able to agree.