Innovation (Introduction)

by David Turell , Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 01:32 (4003 days ago) @ dhw

Dhw: A creationist evolutionist seems to me like a contradiction in terms.
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> DAVID: I sense that God has to intervene for major jumps forward in speciation. Sure that is a form of creationism, obviously; but my variation on the creation theme is that God lets adapability go as far as it can before His tweaking if necessary. God works through an evolutionary process. He did the same thing with the Universe and the Earth. They both went through evolutionary processes.
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> dhw: If God intervenes for "major jumps forward in speciation", that is not just a "form of creationism" ... it IS creationism.-Of course. Lets define creationism/ creationists. 1) First there are the fundamentalists who believe Genesis and the Earth is young and perhaps only as old as 4004 BC, per The Bishop of Usher. They envision the universe, the Earth, and the start of life created in seven days. They even have a acronym YEC. 2)There are old earth creationists, who accept the idea that the universe and the Earth are much older, But they still feel that God created the universe, the Earth, and started life, but in more than seven days. 3) Finally there are theistic evolutionists like me, and yes we are a form of creationist, only we are the third way. We feel God uses evolution as a favored process. How much is pre-planned and how much is dabbling is not clear, but it fits the scientific findings better than the first two types of creationist. It is the approach that Nagel is looking for; he knows about it and won't accept it.